Dennis Meadows explores the consequences of humanity’s pursuit of infinite growth in a finite world and the urgent need to shift our focus from sustainability to resilience.
The discussion dives into the challenges of systemic change, including the societal and political resistance to acknowledging physical and planetary boundaries. Drawing from decades of research and observation, Meadows shares insights on adapting to a post-growth economy, fostering resilience at individual and community levels, and rethinking long-term goals in the face of ecological and societal constraints.

Jordanova details her work with Plan A, a SaaS platform for carbon management, and the Green Tech Alliance, a community supporting green entrepreneurs. The conversation explores obstacles to corporate sustainability and the need for a unified approach to reporting and action. Jordanova underscores the crucial role of data and technology in accelerating the transition, advocating for a holistic approach that prioritises both economic and environmental sustainability.